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>> reporter: on-line admirer said it was as if david hasselhoff from "bay watch," were all the wheel, or james bond. except in his movies, 007 tends to set fires rather than put them out. the speed boat even towed the burned up craft to the landing. the occupant had jumped over board and made it safely to shore. although the boat was a complete wreck at least the 25 glns of fuel didn't blow up. they had a mystery for the sfped boaters. paki, paki, mr. bond. >> as they say, where there is smoke there is fire. >> reporter: this case, where there is fire, now there is only
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smoke. sos, splash our ship. >> i will see you back here an hour from now. "the situation room" with wolf blitzer begins right ahead. and you're in "the situation room," happening now, the new showdowns looming with a new congress ready to fight. we go inside, the next battle is ahead for president obama. controversy and health crises. unexpected health complications, hillary clinton's final days as secretary of state. and google, why is the company's chairman visiting a rogue state with the former governor? bill richardson, joining us this hour. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the room. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the
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situation room". >> a new year, a new congress and new cabinet to put together, and a very tough agenda for lawmakers and the president in the weeks ahead. let's begin our coverage right now with our national correspondent, jim acosta, he's up on capitol hill. >> reporter: some things will not change. john boehner is still the speaker of the house. but there are lots of new faces on capitol hill and some of them are ready for a fight. the newly sworn in 113th congress is so diverse it is redefining the term, ladies of the house. there are more women than ever before. roughly a 100, add that to the approximately 43 african-americans, 31 latinos, 12 asians, and seven gay and
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bisexual politicians, and many have taken notice. >> it means we reflect america more. the district i come from is very diverse. and it is good to see congress starting to look like the rest of america. >> reporter: but some things will stay the same on capitol hill. john boehner survived the gop defections to remain the speaker of the house. he welled up in tears. >> the american dream is in p i peril, so long as its name sake is weighed down by this anchor of debt. break it's hold, and we begin to set our economy free. >> reporter: that will be new easy task, with so many moderates gone from the senate. >> here is the first woman. >> reporter: in some of their places, more partisans, like democrats, elizabeth warren.
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>> do you think both sides can work together here? >> i hope so i really do. >> reporter: the senate banki i senator is on the committee. >> there are many people who would do anything to stop her and fight the protections she was fighting for. and now, she is a colleague. >> reporter: now they have to deal with her. >> now they have to yield the floor. >> reporter: on the other side, tea party texas backed republican, ted cruz, says he will fight for conservativism, not compromise. >> reporter: were you despi disappointed on how the fiscal cliff went down? >> i think it is a bad deal, hurt the economy, kill jobs. >> reporter: his party is feeling feisty, on the next battle to come, whether to raise the next debt ceiling. >> we can't agree on the reforms, without lowering the avalanche of spending that is creating this debt in the first place. >> reporter: and there is another sign that old pattern of
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brinkmanship is back. john boehner told republicans behind closed doors he will insist on spending cuts. the president said he will not discuss it, but it is a sign that the battle lines are being drawn for this new congress, wolf? new the >> there is an area, jim you have been looking into, where there could be bipartisan and comprehensive immigration. a lot of them think they have to reach out to the hispanic community and show a little flexibility on this issue. >> reporter: that is right, we have seen communication from both the members of the house and senate that they need to get with the program you might say, when it comes to immigration reform. they just have to look at what happened in the last election, in terms of how hispanics voted overwhelmingly for president obama. but wolf, if we're getting back to that pattern of brinkmanship,
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even senate republican whip john cornyn said there may need to be a government shutdown to force the president's hand on spending cuts. we may be stuck in this pattern of brinkmanship and that could get in the way of other times like immigration reform. thank you so much. just days after the house of representatives caused a furor by refusing to vote on the aid package for thousands of victims of superstorm sandy, both chambers of the new congress approved a measure. the remaining $51 billion will be considered later this month. joining us now is ken fineberg, the managing partner of the law firm. also somebody who worked on these issues for years. you have given away what? $29 billion to victims of 9/11, katrina and several others, bp, and virginia tech, and some of
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the others, so what is your role as far as superstorm sandy is concerned? >> liberty mutual, private insurers, with claims all over the atlantic region has decided to set up a program to accelerate the processes of insurance claims rising out of sandy. anybody insured with liberty first tries to resolve the claim in the normal course with liberty. if that does not work, liberty has asked me to set up an independent mediation program designed to place the insured and the insurer together with a neutral third party to try to resolve the claim quickly within a matter of four to six weeks, without resort to litigation. >> so you will be medicimediati liberty and individuals who are not satisfied with the money that they would have gotten after they paid all the premiums over the years? >> that is right, all the claims, automobile insurance claims, all of those claims
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first go to liberty. now in katrina, liberty resolved like 95% of those claims. but if you're not getting satisfaction, then this program will accelerate the processing in an effort to get it resolved. >> but you were retained by liberty mutual, right? >> liberty is paying the entire cost of the mediation program. i have gone out and reached out to about 40 mediators, so we'll have about 40 mediators. >> so this is private money, you have nothing to do with the government. you're not giving government money away that congress will appropriate? >> that is right, this is a purely private effort by the insurance company that will do everything they can to get this resolved quickly without resorting to the courts. >> all right, at some point let's say they get the $60 billion through congress and
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start to distribute the money to individuals. you won't have a role in that, but you have given away a lot of money. give us some advice, how they do that, how they make sure the people that really need it get it. they're not phony operations, people just trying to sock away a little money. >> most importantly, two conditions i have learned out over the years. one, get the money out fast. don't delay -- >> when you say get the money out fast, how do you know the money is going to the people who need it to most? >> the second thing you have to do is have the fully transparent process with the right oversight, the right people reviewing these claims or requests for compensation so is that you have a certain comfort level, even with bp. we had over a million claims, a million claims that were about -- there were about 12,000 that were fraudulent, because we had a pretty effective anti-fraudulent mechanism in place. >> a lot of people believe they
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are not getting what they deserve from the insurance companies. >> this program, the program i'm involved with is designed to deal with the concern about delay and about amount. and i'm confident based on the katrina experience, that this medici mediation program will be developed so that the insured get satisfaction. >> because you had a lot of major concerns with katrina or bp, you know, how much is a life worth? if somebody died in 9/11 at the world trade centers, you had to determine how much the survivors would get. they are very difficult decisions to make. >> they're all difficult, now with the insurance claims with sandy, you will probably see there are disputes is it wind, rain, not covered, covered, unless you have flood insurance. that is not liberty mutual. it was, what was the business
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interruption because my business was closed, i lost a certain amount of profit because of the closing of the business. auto, that is a relatively straightforward calculation. >> does it make any difference if it was your house, your primary residence, that was destroyed, let's say along the southern shore of long island. or if you're a millionaire and have a second home along the jersey shore, the long island shore. do those issues come into effect? >> in the private insurance business, what is the contract? what is covered? what is insured? the second home, third home, you have to look at the policy, liberty made it very clear -- >> what about the government money that will be allocated? >> now, most of the government money, i suspect, i have not looked at the appropriation, i bet you the great bulk of that money is for community purposes, bridges, roads, sewers, water.
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i doubt that much of that government money is going to be reserved for individual payments, for individuals residing in the area. fema, i suspect will go to community-wide improvements. >> what is the most difficult decision you had to make in giving away government money to the victims of 9/11, bp, or katrina, the virginia tech shooting. these other areas where you were asked to distribute funds? >> in all of these cases whether it is bp or 9/11, or virginia tech, any of them, the emotion that you confront with people who justifiably have been wronged through no fault of their own. they are innocent victims. they are frustrated by life's misfortune. and you have to try and empathize with people, and sort
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of try to be a psychiatrist, in trying to gauge that emotion. and try to deal with them as best you can. >> ken fineberg, good luck. and falling well short of what they had to do. >> we had a chance for our generation to do something big to put our fiscal house in order. and we absolutely blew it. >> my exclusive interview with erskine bowles, on the simpson-bowles commission. and a dangerous cliff, the end of hillary clinton's tenure, what will her legacy be? no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com.
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hillary clinton's final days as secretary of state have been overshadowed by health scares and controversy. and it only made a dramatic effect. our congressional correspondent kate baldwin has details. >> very important details, you know the end of 2012 was set to be marked with hillary clinton's farewell tour as the country's top diplomat. things have changed, leaving many to wonder with what lasting impact. >> reporter: after loggingmore than 950,000 miles, visiting 112 countries, hillary clinton is known for keeping a grueling
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schedule. and a huge approval rating, close to 70% in december. it seemed certain the secretary would end her tenure on a high note. but the closing chapter of her post has turned into anything but a fond good-bye. illness, a concussion, a blood clot has sidelined clinton for more than three weeks. >> she is talking to staff and taking paper at home. she sounds terrific, she is looking forward to coming back to work next week. >> reporter: and she still faces tough questions about the september 11th attack on the mission in benghazi, which threatens to leave a lasting stain on her three decades long career. clinton said in october it is a disaster she takes responsibility for. >> i'm in charge of the state department, 60,000 plus people all over the world, 200 posts. the president and vice president
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certainly wouldn't be knowledgeable about the decisions made by security professionals. >> reporter: beyond that mark on her legacy, the attack in the middle east, and the violence in the middle east, especially syria may become unfinished business that the secretary may leave behind. >> we can't be ending on a high. but i think it is part of a broader piece. this is not a slam dunk world. there were no spectacular successes to be had. there were only as i described elsewhere, migraines or root canals. >> reporter: as she moves into the next chapter of her life and possibly a 2016 presidential bid, the real question is whether unfinished business may become political bagage. >> her challenge is not going to be that americans looked back and said why didn't you fix syria, or why didn't they give up quests for weapons, the real question is running against
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history. can you have another four to eight years of democratic rule after the last eight? >> reporter: still, she is very popular both here and abroad. when asked about get well messages the secretary of state received, they said it was a tsunami, so many people wishing her well and wishing she gets back to work. >> and maybe the messages are working. because it looks, at least according to her officials that she will get back to work maybe this coming week. >> yes, and that is something the folks at the state department looked at on a daily basis. what is the latest on her condition and recovery, and the latest we hear is she will be back at work next week in the coming days. and everybody is very interested in how much she works when she does get back to work. >> thank you, kate. i spoke about the secretary with paul begala, and ari
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fleischer. >> she is very capable and owes it to the country, as paul rightly pointed out she took responsibility for the head of the state department for what took place. and people want to know. people died, and we have a reasonable expectation that our diplomats can be protected when they go abroad. and officials, regardless of how it went wrong, they have to take the hard questions to make sure they thought through the answers. so if that is coming up she will deal with it. that is her style, she will deal with it. i do accept absolutely that she has not in the past because of her illness. and hopefully she will be able to recover and testify. >> you know, my sense has always been, and assuming she is emerging from this blood clot and concussion, that she is strong and in healthy shape, ari, how strong a presidential candidate would she be in 2016? >> well, you know, wolf, i think everybody except for a few smart souls in chicago thought she was unbeatable in 2008.
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2016, i think you would have to say she would emerge the frontrunner for the democratic party. but at the end of the day, i think she is not going to do it. at the end of the day, her life in public, she is entitled to enjoy her life. i think if she could get promised she wouldn't have to go through primaries and the primary process, she may want to do it and take on the republicans. but to go through everything you have to go to, that is a lot to impose on somebody again. >> paul, what do you think? >> well, first of all, nobody gives these things away. she wanted to be president. and it was the closest a woman came to the top job in our country. she was not wild about being the secretary of state. she loves it, and has served wonderfully -- she -- i have no
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idea. the last thing she needs is another headache, certainly not one from me. we ought to give her a couple of weeks, this serious injury, more than just a bump on the head. let's figure this thing out. i travel the country, she is beloved by everybody who supported her last time, and even by those who supported then senator obama. she will not be unopposed, i promise you that. >> we'll have a lot more to talk about in the weeks, months and years about the secretary of state. hillary clinton. when we come back it is much more than a regular army. up next, disturbing new details about iran's intelligence service. stay with us, you're in "the situation room." unstuff your n. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth!
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beg . we're talking about iran's intelligence service. cnn's brian todd has details of this disturbing new report. >> reporter: assassination plot, terrorist bombings, cyber war fare, tactics used by iran's intelligence service, one of the most aggressive spy operations in the world. that is according to a report by the pentagon. the report says iran's intelligence community has 30,000 people working for it, compared to just over 107 in the u.s. intelligence agencies and office. >> from the standpoint of u.s. western national security what is the most dangerous operation that iranian intelligence has its hand? >> well, i think the most dangerous thing is the terrorism. they have for decades now,
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developed networks with other terrorist groups, so they themselves don't necessarily have to do something. they can contract it out. they can encourage others to engage in terrorism against the united states and our allies. >> reporter: a former cia officer who tracked iranian intelligence through europe and the middle east says that iranian intelligence and security used to conduct most iranian-sponsored assassinations overseas. he says that unit killed ba kt iar, the former minister, assassinated in paris in 1991. but they say it has shifted to the iranian military unit part of the revolutionary guard. what is their big job now? >> they're primarily used as an instrument of internal repression, they know how to hurt people. >> reporter: they say the force is inside syria, backing assad's
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forces. the chairman of the homeland security committee has said that iran runs spies out of the mission to iran and here at the section in washington. >> reporter: king made those comments after a plot was revealed to assassinate saudi arabia's ambassador, in the wake of that, king called for strong retaliation against iranian diplomats in the u.s. >> to me, it should either get rid of all of them or most of them and send a clear signal. >> reporter: iranian officials denied any role in trying to assassinate the saudi ambassador in washington. we called a meeting for comment on the latest report for the country's intelligence operations. we got no response, brian todd, cnn, washington. and the fiscal cliff debt ceiling fight.
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>> for god's sake, i wouldn't wait until the last minute. we have had enough of this brinksmanship, this moving from crisis to crisis. >> i'll speak exclusively with irskin bowles, who chaired the panel that tried to head off this crisis. block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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. congress went to the 11th how and then beyond before agreeing on a deal to keep the country from going over the fiscal cliff. the tax agreement was signed into law this week. but more cliffs lie ahead, including the very dangerous problem of raising the u.s. debt ceiling. and erskine bowles is joining us right now, part of the move to fix the cliff. part of the simpson-bowles commission, designed to deal with debt relief and debt reduction. erskine, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> how would you have voted for that fiscal relief legislation,
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had you been a member of the house or senate? >> oh, look, i would have voted for it. you know, i think going over the cliff would have been an economic disaster for the country. it was too much. too quick -- too abruptly, and if you look at the cuts, the discretionary items, action of them deal with the things that need to slow the growth rate, that is the entitlement programs. it did generate growth. it was a step in the right direction, but for sure, wolf, it was a missed opportunity. i call this the magic moment, you know, where we had a chance for our generation to do something big to put our fiscal house in order. and we absolutely blew it. >> in the next few weeks, as you well know, there will be at least three crisis points coming
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up, raising the nation's debt ceiling, dealing with what is called that sequestration, the automatic spending cuts and domestic spending cuts and national security. and also continued resolution to keep the government operating. how would you deal with the crisis points in order to deal with what you want, which is the big picture and really getting to the bottom of this whole issue? >> for god's sake, i wouldn't wait until the last minute. we have had enough of this brinksmansh brinksmanship, this moving from crisis to crisis. that is a foolish way for any organization, small or large, much less the u.s. government, the largest economy in the world to run its organization. here is what we got to do. we have got to do -- make the tough decisions. and we're -- you know, we're only about half way there of the things we have to do. we have got to make sure we reform our tax code, broaden the
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base, simplify the code, get rid of some of this back door spending in the tax code. we have got to slow the rate of growth of the tax code, if we don't slow the rate of the health care, it will bankrupt the company. and finally, we have to make social security sustainably solvent. these are big items we have to deal with if we work with the debt. these guys have got to negotiate and work together. they have to put some of this ultrapartisan topolitics aside d deal with these very big issues. >> but you know washington, it is very dysfunctional, despite the last minute dealings on the fiscal cliff. and there was bipartisan dealing. they want to deal with small ball, they're not ready to deal with the big picture unless you see something there i'm not seeing. >> oh, look, i can tell you what i see are the things that you
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said. you know, there is great uncertainty out here in the country. the markets are going to react at some point in time, and react severely to the lack of knowledge of what is going to go on, the uncertainty. and we do have the debt ceiling coming up. we do have a budget coming up. you know, we do have this sequester coming up. all of that creates great uncertainty. and what these guys have to do is start to act like grown-ups. and they have to start negotiating. just like i might add we did in the 1990s when president clinton actually sat down and negotiated with newt gingrich and trent lott, even when there was ultra-partisanship. people say it was worse today than back then, heck, they tried to impeach the president. we have had that, but you have to put that aside and work together. >> here is what the president says repeatedly now when it comes to raising the so-called
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debt ceiling, it will have to be raised by february, early march, at the latest. i want to play a little clip. listen to the president. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of defeat once again, which is part of the negotiation, which by the way we never did in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> he says he wouldn't play that game. but republicans say they will only raise the debt ceiling if there is an equal amount of spending cuts together with the raising of the debt ceiling. he says he is not going to play that game. will he have any choice? >> look, that is the kind of brinksmanship i'm talking about. we should not negotiate on the full faith and credit of a u.s. government. that is crazy. why would we want to put our economy through that? but there are lots of things we
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can negotiate on. we do have a sequester, we do have the end of the continuing resolution. we have lots of things coming up that will force us to make some of the tough decisions. >> here is what mitch mcconnell wrote on yahoo! news. i'll read about it, he is going after the president. he is the republican leader in the senate. predictably the president is claiming already that his tax hike on the rich is not enough. i have news for him, the moment that he and every other elected official signed off on the current arrangement, it was the last word on taxes. that debate is over. what he is saying it is now all about spending cuts, no more discussion of taxes for all practical purposes. no more increases in taxes. it is all spending cuts. you agree with mitchell -- mitch mcconnell on that? >> i actually don't, i think the
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primary spendi needs to be on spending cuts. we have to make social security sustainably solvent, and there is lots of work to do on the spending side. and we haven't had enough discussions on the debate. >> we can't leave this mess to the next generation, just ahead, the warning from erskine bowles, as my tour continues. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see?
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. the panel of the erskine bowles tried to steer them to the fact of fiscal stability, but they didn't listen. more now of my exclusive interview. would you like to be the treasury secretary? >> no. >> okay, that is a pretty blunt answer, because you have seen your name floated out there as a possible successor to tim geithner. >> and the reason i say that is look, i -- i'm 67 years old. i have been gone from home for over a dozen years, doing various public service things. and i have come home, i have got nine grandchildren under seven,
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and i really want to stay home. so i don't want a full-time job either in the public or private sector. >> one final question, how disappointed were you that the president rejected the simpson-bowles recommendations? >> well, look, i was disappointed at the time. but i came to understand was that his goal was to use it as a framework for his discussions that he had with speaker boehner back in gosh, almost two years ago now. in his first effort to get a grand bargain. he felt that was the best way to be successful. if he had been right, he would have proven to be a political genius. unifor unfortunately, he was not. they didn't get a deal one and i was very disappointed. >> yeah, i think that was an historic moment to get that grand bargain. i know you worked hard on it with other members of the commission. it was clearly a missed opportunity, at least with hindsight, and i know you agree.
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>> and we're going to keep working on it. this is -- our generation, wolf, yours and mine, we're the ones that created this fiscal mess. i don't care whether you're a republican or democrat. together we created this mess. and it is our responsibility to clean it up. we can't leave this to the next generation. >> erskine bowles, thank you for all that you have done, we'll stay in touch, as well. >> thank you, sir, good to talk to you. against the advice of the u.s. government, the executive chairman of google is going to korea. can he persuade the young leader to open up on the floor of information? we'll talk more about that and the young man traveling with him to north korea. tasm
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. some stunning travel plans in the works right now. the google chairman, eric schmidt, will be traveling to north korea, going with former governor bill richardson, on what is described as a private humanitarian visit. i traveled to north korea with governor richardson two years ago the last time he was there.
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he is standing by to join us, but first, listen to what the state department says about the upcoming planned visit. >> frankly, we don't think the timing of this is particularly helpful, but they are private citizens and they are making their own decisions. >> and joining us now is governor bill richardson. so governor, how come you're going against the wishes of the state department, and heading off to north korea? >> well, i understand why they're cautious, this is a very sensitive time in diplomacy with north korea. we're not happy with what the north koreans have been doing, but i'm a private citizen, this is a private humanitarian mission. we postponed at their request once, right before the south korean elections. and there never seems to be a good time to go. in the past, i have postponed visits to north korea at their requests, but i felt at this time because of the humanitarian
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nature of the trip, the fact that there is an american detainee there, i heard from the son of the detainee, i think it is important we go. it is a brief visit. eric schmidt is going as a private visit, this is not a google visit. and so i hope that the state department is appropriately cautious, but obviously, they have gotten a little bit of concern. but we're going to be fine. >> so one of your goals is to bring home this american citizen who has been detained in north korea, is that right? >> well, our goals are several. the primary mission is humanitarian. we're going to look at the human situation in north korea. the poorest nation in the world. the detainee issue is another one. we're going to try to see the detainee, i think it is going to
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be difficult to bring him back, because the judicial process there has not even commenced. third, we're going to obviously talk about some of the nuclear issues, very concerned about a possible nuclear test. concerned about recent actions by the north koreans. but these are unofficial. this is not in any representation from the department of state or the administration, it is a two to three-day visit. and we hope to come back as i have over the years, the last 15 years, i have had success in negotiating with the north koreans. >> any chance that you will meet with the new leader there, kim jong-un? >> very doubtful, i think they have the leadership of their country meet only with the appropriate government leadership from other countries s. so because this is a private visit, i don't believe we'll meet with him. but we will meet with a variety of from the foreign
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ministry, from the economic ministry, from the military. it will be a wide ranging visit where we get a chance not only to talk to a number of north korean officials but a chance to get a look at the humanitarian situation. >> you i know you heard the speech he made, is he trying to reach out to south korea. is he trying to reach out to the west? is it the same old, same old. what do you think? >> well, i am getting mixed messages. this is why we wanted to go and get an on hand assessment. on the one hand, his new year's eve speech talks about a dialog with south korea. and that is good. the new south korean president is ready to engage, and secondly
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the launches that they have the undertaken are not conducive to six-party talks to the international community feeling comfort with a discussing issues with north korea. it seems that the new leader is trying to strengthen himself domestically with his own people, the fact that the launch a year ago failed, now it succeeded. and so, that stalls things internally and internationally, you know how the north koreans are, they like to send a message, hey, we are around, we are playering, we have nuclear weapons. the international community should pay attention to us. >> when i was was there with you two years ago, almost exactly two years ago, it was a tense time, there was military exchanges between north and south korea. as you well remember and i certainly remember how would you describe the situation on the korean pa lyeninsula now as comd
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to then? >> it's still tense. it has provoked a lot of concern. the nuclear tests have provoked more concern t security council is considering additional sanctions, so the situation is tense. the -- the relationship between north korea and south korea. if what the new leader has talked about, which is a dialog, maybe things are calming down a bit. maybe there's an opportunity for a new dialog, there's a new leader in north korea. and a new leader in south korea. so, hopefully, this is going to be the key, how the two koreas work with each other. i just do think that the six-party countries, russia, china, the u.s., japan, south korea, i think perhaps a new approach is needed in dealing with north korea. i'm very concerned about north
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korea's resanctions, but a new dialogue is needed. i'm on a private humanitarian mission, i'm not representing the u.s. government. eric schmidt is going as a private citizen, not as a google representative. we will make an assessment and see what come of our visit. but i think it will be a positive visit. >> your north korean adviser, he is going along on the trip as well? he has been there, many, many times. >> tony is joining us, he is annex pertain on north korea. he knows asia very well. and so, it will be an interesting team. >> hey, governor be safe over there and we will sna close touch, good luck. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> all right. it's a bird. it's a plane, we have a very different story many coming up when we come back. it's super man.stop! come back here!
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the water to find relief from the heat. and in japan, j the sea lion paints a chinese character brush in his mouth. it's a bird, it's a plane, it's a remote control device that looks like superman. while that phrase may not necessarily catch on, the superman flying machine most certainly is. cnns that story. >> here it comes. >> he may look like the man of steal, but he is actually the man of light weight foam. >> faster than a speeding bullet. >> and actually, his top speed is 30 miles an hour. but the sight of superman flying above the california coast was enough to make a cyclist stop and shoot it, the video went viral and now folks are wondering -- >> look up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane, it's superman. >> yeah, superman was 5'2", and
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weighed less than two pounds. >> where did they hide the propeller? >> it's not nice to laugh at superman, but belle show you on the female version, supergirl. >> with electric motor and a battery that goes on her head. they have built about a dozen of these remote control figured. he is a former air force test pilot with a long career in aviation. he even customized superman, the cape, that he had to shorten to keep his super hero aerodynamic. >> it add as lot to how it looks and when it's flying by -- >> it's removeable. >> they plan to launch a business. in a few months, selling slightly smaller remote controlled figures. for under $500 each. the buyers would aassemble and